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better for them. they suffered miserably after the july 2011 standoff. and so i get that this is a bad situation for republicans. but i don't see the call cue louse behind saying if we can just threaten the credit of the united states government all things will be great for us. >> they did trillion plus cuts last year. it's not easy to find things anybody will cut. if you keep doing this and have to cut another trillion you run out. >> they want to do this to pursue really unpopular policies. like reducing social security benefits. >> remember this is no longer. the president ran on that message, which is a testament to how far we've come since george h. w. bush. i'm wondering where norquist goes into this? if they raise taxes, no matter what is around it. does he still have clout in the gop? >> i think he ends up drinking a strong glass of merlot. >> i'll never do it again. >> right, right. listen, it seems clear at this juncture that the pledge will be broken. if it's not via the bush tax rates it are be via the tax cuts. i don't know what this means for his long term clout. in the s
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